You know something isn't working. You don't know what to ask for.

Most people arrive asking for a website, because that's the word everybody knows. Sometimes that's the answer. Often it's three smaller things wired together, and occasionally it's the opposite. Working out which is the first thing we do, not something you're expected to turn up with.

Not sure what you need/ Sales system

If any of this sounds familiar

  • “I think I need a new website, but I'm not certain.”
  • “I've been told I need SEO, ads and a CRM and I don't know which.”
  • “I don't want to buy something and find out it wasn't the problem.”
  • “Everyone I speak to recommends the thing they happen to sell.”
  • “I honestly don't know what half these words mean.”

Not knowing what to ask for is the normal state, not a gap in your knowledge

You run a business. There's no reason you should know the difference between a CRM and a marketing automation platform, and the people who do know are mostly the people selling one.

The uncomfortable part is that the words are the only way in. You can't brief someone without them, so you end up asking for a website because it's the word you have, and you get a website, and often that wasn't it.

So the first job is translation. Tell us what's actually happening in the business and we'll tell you which of the words it maps to.

Why buying one part usually changes nothing

There are three layers. In front of you is how people find you and what they think before they arrive. The thing itself is your website. Behind it is what happens after somebody gets in touch.

A beautiful site with nothing catching enquiries loses them at the back. A perfect follow up system is worth nothing if nobody finds you. Ads pointed at a page that doesn't convert just spend faster.

Almost everybody in this market sells one layer. Web designers sell the middle, CRM resellers sell the back, SEO and ads agencies sell the front. Each can do their bit perfectly well and you can still see no difference, which is why so many people have bought something and felt nothing change.

How to work out which layer is actually broken

You can do this yourself in ten minutes and it's worth doing before you talk to anybody, including us.

Search for what you sell, in your area, on your phone, not logged in. If you can't find yourself, the front is the problem. If you find yourself easily, open your own site and try to get in touch as a stranger would. If that's awkward or there's no way to do it besides ringing, the middle is the problem.

If both of those are fine, count what happened to the last ten enquiries. If some got no reply for a day, or nobody followed up when they went quiet, the problem is behind it. Whichever step lost you people is where the money is.

Sometimes the answer is that you don't need us

The fix is occasionally one thing, small, and something you can do in an afternoon. Claiming a Google profile you never claimed. Turning on the form notifications that have been going to an inbox nobody opens. Asking your last twenty customers for a review.

When that's what we find, we'll say so. Partly because it's true and partly because telling you otherwise is how this industry got its reputation.

It costs us nothing to be honest about that, and the businesses that come back to us later are usually the ones we told to go away first.

"Everyone recommends the thing they sell"

Correct, and you should assume the same about us. What you can do is check whether the recommendation is falsifiable.

Ask why. If the answer refers to something specific about your business that they'd have had to go and look at, that's a real diagnosis. If it's the same answer they'd give anybody, it's a product being described back at you.

That's the test we'd want applied to us too. If we can't tell you what we saw when we looked at your business, we haven't looked.

"How do I know how big this needs to be?"

Both answers are real ones. Small components put together is a genuine outcome and we'll happily do it. The whole thing built properly is a genuine outcome too, and sometimes it's the honest answer, because the thing you have can't be patched any further.

The wrong version is being sold the largest thing because you didn't know enough to argue. That's the one to guard against, and the way to guard against it is to make somebody show you the reasoning rather than the package.

For what it's worth, the answer is small more often than large.

What it costs, which depends entirely on what it turns out to be

Nobody can price this page honestly, and anybody who tries is quoting the package rather than your problem. That's the whole reason you're on it.

You'll get a number on the first call rather than after three meetings. If it's a small fix it's priced as a small fix, and sometimes it's small enough that you should just do it yourself, in which case we'll tell you how. If you've already got something that works, a CRM your pipeline actually lives in or a site on a platform that performs, we'd keep it rather than replace it, and that comes off the number rather than onto it.

What we won't do is guarantee an outcome. Google changes, Meta changes, and anyone promising you a number of leads by a date is optimising for the promise.

What actually happens if you get in touch

We go and look before we talk. What a customer sees from search through to getting in touch, where enquiries are going and whether any are being lost, whether the brand is helping you or quietly costing you.

Then a call, where you get told what we'd fix first and in what order, and roughly what each part would involve.

You can take that and do it yourself, take it to somebody else, or ask us to do it. All three are fine, and you'll know more than you did either way.

Start by finding out what it is

Book a call and we'll tell you which of the three layers is actually costing you, and what to do first. If the answer is small, we'll say that too.

Book a 30-minute callPick a time without leaving this page.

What clients say

5.0 from 16 Google reviews
Phil from Echo Studios has been a god sent to us! We have recently engaged with Phil who approached us via Facebook Messenger on our business page. Phil had taken the time to research our business across all our platforms including the website we had just had completed by another company this year. We scheduled a call and WOW is all I can say! From the moment on the first call we were blown away with Phil's work, knowledge and dedication to our business. After the 2 hour call with Phil, there was Zero hesitation and we joined in working with him. The website is incredible! The information on it is mind blowing in how he just understood our business our vision and our ideal clients and how to target the right market for us. Now he has just launched our new website and he is starting on our Google ads and SEO and set up new automation systems that make my job as administrator for our business so much easier and less stressful that I no longer need to look at hiring a VA. Within 1 day Phil was able to get 4 past clients to leave us a 5 star google review. Something we had struggled with for years. We previously had been stung badly with advertising agency's who promised us quality leads, good website and SEO optimisation yet after spending so many thousands and no ROI we had given up Until we met Phil! As a business owner it's extremely stressful and disheartening sometimes but having Phil working in our business has given us hope and motivation to keep doing what we love. Phil, thank you so much! You are truly amazing at what you do.
Brittany SpriggsScenic Rim Retaining Wall Buildersscenicrimretainingwallbuilders.com.auGoogle review
When Echo Studios reached out to me, not only did they tell me constructively what I was missing, they gave me suggestions on how to fix it. … Phil makes you excited from that first cold email to the last couple of hours going through the new CRM, Website, Automation, Logo change he has done for your business.
Melanie MemeryConstructions by Lucasconstructionsbylucas.com.auGoogle review
Phil is so beneficial to my business, his knowledge ,skills and work is outstanding, couldn't recommend him highly enough
Lewis McDonaldMcDonald's Roof Paintingmcdonaldsroofpainting.com.auGoogle review
Phil from echo studios have designed us a website that is simple and easy to use. it defiantly helps us standout. the turnaround time that everything went live was very quick. … I would have no hesitation in recommending echo studio to other small business.
Ben PattiAll Over Towingallovertowingandtransport.comGoogle review
What was meant to be a quick half-hour Zoom call turned into a two-hour chat. I decided to jump on board, and Phil worked his magic — new website, landing pages, CRM systems, SEO, and more (some of which I still don’t fully understand!). I honestly wish I’d met Phil much earlier.
Glenn AdriaansG-TEC Electricalg-tecelectrical.com.auGoogle review
Phil contacted me directly via my old website and pointed out a few things that needed work. Normally, I wouldn't respond to "cold callers", but his approach got my attention. He has a really good eye for detail and a lot of knowledge not just of building web pages, but about the latest technology … And my faith in him has been generously rewarded and I look forward to working with him in the future.
John MurrayMurray's Paintingmurrayspainting.com.auGoogle review
Phil has been amazing to work with, he’s a friendly guy but most importantly - it didn’t take much time for him to understand the scope of what I needed for my business, and fully execute that with minimal involvement from my end. He’s very knowledgable in his field and would recommend his services if that’s what you’re looking for! Great job mate
Dany IbrahimStay Shady (formerly Blinds & Tint Co)stayshady.com.auGoogle review
He took the time to understand not just the design side, but also the bigger picture of the business. He helped with more than just the website itself but also supported me with software, backend setup, infrastructure, and the next stages of growth.
Wahyu SaksonoNusara Cleaning Conusara.com.auGoogle review
Before this, I was working job to job from referrals. Some months were great, others were dead quiet. … they set up everything from scratch, got me properly listed online, and now I've got a steady stream of bookings coming in.
James FlorrimellTop End AutomotiveGoogle review

Why Echo

The person scoping the work is the person building it. The website, follow-up and tracking are designed together, so the path from the first visit to the booked call does not disappear between suppliers.

Before you book

What happens on the call?

We look at where the business is now, what is getting in the way and whether a website, brand or connected system is the right next move.

Do I need a finished brief?

No. Bring the problem as you understand it. The first job is working out what actually needs to be built.

What if it is not a fit?

We will say so on the call and point you toward the clearest next step we can see.